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&lt;a title="seslichat" href="http://www.sesliyasam.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;seslichat&lt;/a&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3256089640622111168/75889570909319307/comments/default/8349463168384616204'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3256089640622111168/75889570909319307/comments/default/8349463168384616204'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://abe.epton.org/2009/06/even-better-parking-meter.html?showComment=1278955319885#c8349463168384616204' title=''/><author><name>ibrahim</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07331515482413022555</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://abe.epton.org/2009/06/even-better-parking-meter.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256089640622111168.post-75889570909319307' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3256089640622111168/posts/default/75889570909319307' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1160484580'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256089640622111168.post-992486189519828362</id><published>2009-07-01T14:24:58.398-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-01T14:24:58.398-07:00</updated><title type='text'>From my phone, or else this would be longer+better...</title><content type='html'>From my phone, or else this would be longer+better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I concede there are significant implementation challenges, and the privacy concerns are real.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, potential for abuse isn&amp;#39;t a reason not to implement a technology, it&amp;#39;s a reason to design it to make abuse difficult, and create strong oversight. The police have guns, too, which they abuse all the time. But we don&amp;#39;t take those away, we work to regulate their use, and prosecute abuses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RFID is trivial to hack, but there&amp;#39;d be no good reason to do so: all the unit can do is broadcast its ID, and the much more secure central system takes care of payment, etc. Besides, RFID is already used for a very similar application - tollway fast passes. You could probably use the exact same boxes that are already in peoples cars for this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The newly-installed meters already take care of the paper passes necessary for out-of-towners, and they would only need slight upgrades to support this. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, most of your other objections apply in exactly equal measure to fast passes, which are seeing wide adoption and are much beloved. If anything, I think this system would be as beloved by drivers, and would be a great source of increased revenue, while making pricing both smarter AND more fair for a critical piece of ubiquitous city infrastructure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, I do sometimes make fun of your privacy advocacy, but I think it&amp;#39;s valuable. Technology is often made more useful by the sacrifice of some privacy, but too much sacrifice would be just as bad as too little, and society benefits from a vigorous debate between advocates of both (not necessarily diametrically-opposed) sides. And I&amp;#39;m pretty sure I&amp;#39;ve given money to the ACLU in the past, and will do so in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for your really well-thought-out objections, btw. And what dates are you going to be in town?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3256089640622111168/75889570909319307/comments/default/992486189519828362'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3256089640622111168/75889570909319307/comments/default/992486189519828362'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://abe.epton.org/2009/06/even-better-parking-meter.html?showComment=1246483498398#c992486189519828362' title=''/><author><name>Abraham</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11310916260404292728</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://abe.epton.org/2009/06/even-better-parking-meter.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256089640622111168.post-75889570909319307' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3256089640622111168/posts/default/75889570909319307' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-298236621'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256089640622111168.post-3053844594732062673</id><published>2009-07-01T11:30:36.416-07:00</published><updated>2009-07-01T11:30:36.416-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Abe, I know that for some reason you&amp;#39;ve made f...</title><content type='html'>Abe, I know that for some reason you&amp;#39;ve made fun of me for years for being an ACLU stalwart, but this is such a terrible idea. RFIDs are incredibly easy to hack, discreetly, track, etc. It would serve as a giant privacy violation for drivers/car owners. I guarantee that the CPD would illegally use them to track somebody within 6 months of operation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On top of that, there are HUGE practical barriers towards implementation of this plan. First of all, there is the issue of universality - only Chicago drivers would have these. What about out-of-town cars, or even suburban vehicles? Then there&amp;#39;s cost: all those RFID devices would cost a lot of money. What happens if yours breaks? Can you still park? Would you even know if it is broken? Would we still have infrastructure for payment in an old-fashioned, coin-based way? It&amp;#39;d be awfully expensive to maintain two payment infrastructures in Chicago. And these are just off the top of my head.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;...see you in Chicago this weekend, where you can either acknowledge my superior and farsighted arguments or fight it out with me for an hour before somebody begs us to to talk about something more interesting than parking policy, like sports or (if we&amp;#39;re lucky) zoning.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3256089640622111168/75889570909319307/comments/default/3053844594732062673'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3256089640622111168/75889570909319307/comments/default/3053844594732062673'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://abe.epton.org/2009/06/even-better-parking-meter.html?showComment=1246473036416#c3053844594732062673' title=''/><author><name>Eric</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13488803959393643226</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='10067553424749302131'/><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://abe.epton.org/2009/06/even-better-parking-meter.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256089640622111168.post-75889570909319307' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3256089640622111168/posts/default/75889570909319307' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1135108533'/></entry></feed>
